tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post8392442988667668387..comments2023-09-13T13:19:15.216+05:30Comments on Fused Bulbs: SUL (Part 1)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-76548285359498630032007-07-24T17:46:00.000+05:302007-07-24T17:46:00.000+05:30I know what your talking about, and am facing the ...I know what your talking about, and am facing the same problem actually!Arun Chagantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286361539754299282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-67013502379842601952007-07-24T08:37:00.000+05:302007-07-24T08:37:00.000+05:30Hey I just came across your blog while looking for...Hey I just came across your blog while looking for more information on KVPY. I'm rather baffled with the lack of barriers on the project. It is so vast I don't know what they are looking for.<BR/><BR/>I know all of you are in the KVPY program, I was wondering if you could help me out. I just want examples of what you've done so I have an idea of what is required. <BR/>Thanks!SLRaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14275177494663920819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-31057265510628717102007-07-22T13:20:00.000+05:302007-07-22T13:20:00.000+05:30Awesome, finally, some one else who likes Asimov a...Awesome, finally, some one else who likes Asimov and the Foundation series!Arun Chagantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286361539754299282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-74136177325393978892007-07-19T11:31:00.000+05:302007-07-19T11:31:00.000+05:30i certainly do have a thing against changing the v...i certainly do have a thing against changing the very basic rules of english as we speak it. do you know how many books i had devoured before i could tell what 'etymology' is?<BR/>but personal grudges aside, today english HAS permeated everywhere, we just take it one step further.<BR/>while reading what arun had to say, he reminds me of a modernday golan trevize trying to unify worlds.:-)<BR/>as for shalinee, this is definitely practical! we are not saying that you take up noodles as your staple food.... we are speaking of a separate mode of communication... but it definitely comes to languages at this point because the verbal mode of communication is considered the most effective.so for practical purposes speak this 'lojban'-esque language, and then then come home to your mother-tongue telegu or hindi, whatever.<BR/><BR/>but i originally wanted to add a little more to this discussion, a little abstract and probably reverting back to what saurya started with- brainwave communication(sounds technical, innit?). i am attracted to this because it is definitely stylish.figure this- human beings recognise certain situations inherently.you see certain comic books go without dialogues at all for a few pages at a time .but understand them, and belt out 90rupees in the process!<BR/>so i propose a method to unravel this mode--<BR/>1. understand the way the brain stores information and their respective clustering.<BR/>2. find methods to input this information, or mode of communication that supports the 'brain'-data type.<BR/>3. market the device and earn huge amounts of money.whippey!<BR/><BR/>and who says this cant be done!obiwankenobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17399381457113652062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-20151276796528450032007-07-18T00:23:00.000+05:302007-07-18T00:23:00.000+05:30Well, its always nice to have more people posting!...Well, its always nice to have more people posting! (since we don't do it enough...)<BR/><BR/>I personally hold a belief that humanity will equilibriate at the best option, even after a lot of sub-optimal options along the way. Does the perfect language exist? No. But I still feel that there is a better choice than english, at least english in its present form. <BR/><BR/>However, as I'm thoroughly hopeless and am interested in maths, and physics (and chem and bio), all I can say is that equilbrium points exist with a recognizable pit, and in many. English may have permeated too many people to be taken out of that minima unless something drastic happens. So, while not being the optimal solution of communication, it may just stay that way. Luckily I know more english than Hindi (or Telugu, tsk tsk), so I'm saved ;). Equilibria and the phenomenon that occur at their borders are of course a very interesting phenomemenon, but before every linguist alive issues a fatwa against me, I'll shush up.Arun Chagantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286361539754299282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-81351506989048604962007-07-16T18:19:00.000+05:302007-07-16T18:19:00.000+05:30Hello..(and i m tryin to be polite coz its d first...Hello..(and i m tryin to be polite coz its d first time i m leavin a comment[:P])<BR/><BR/>wht u r tryin for is some what like tryin to tell indians that rice is no good and tellin americans dat bread is no good and japanese dat noodles is useless..and ultimately fuse all of them together to make a 'special universal' staple diet for d whole world and ensuring the goodness of bread, rice, noodles in one!! [:|]<BR/><BR/>ok..first wht u rspeakinof it perfect for a research paper...but do u think its practically viable?Shalinee..On MetaMinD Karmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17207556891802863554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-29419265567111705582007-07-16T08:09:00.000+05:302007-07-16T08:09:00.000+05:30well heres my take on sul!the 'special(?- make it ...well heres my take on sul!<BR/><BR/>the 'special(?- make it general!) universal language' should contain some specific components-<BR/>1.visual stimulation(turn off the light please!)<BR/>2.aural supplement(bang! bang!)<BR/>3.olefactory stimulus(smelly!)<BR/>and <BR/>4.sensory perception(pinch!)..optional<BR/><BR/>so what pictures can suggest is low resolution videos that occupy the lowest disk space, to give the viewer an idea of the desired message.<BR/><BR/>but we can interact better with the human mind only if we can decode the process of storage of memory in the brain.<BR/><BR/>in a way this post is very much relevant to the tp posts, this is about the interaction of the conscious entities..........so the sul can only materialize only if the brain processes are decoded.<BR/><BR/>waiting for part two!obiwankenobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17399381457113652062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-61555131273630870112007-07-07T12:17:00.000+05:302007-07-07T12:17:00.000+05:30Look at braille, it's universal. Except that it ca...Look at braille, it's universal. Except that it can be expressed in only one way and not many people learn it. But they can.RGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11177269454641034500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-91143340134986086452007-07-05T17:34:00.000+05:302007-07-05T17:34:00.000+05:30Ahhh, Saurya, you've done it again, you've read my...Ahhh, Saurya, you've done it again, you've read my mind! I've been thinking about this for a long time. I personally think hindi >>>>>> english,etc.<BR/><BR/>a) It has a slightly larger character set to meet the phonetic requirement, but less than japanese or any other language. True, telugu, bengali and most other indian languages come under the same analysis, but hindi is more popular than those. <BR/><BR/>But, i spent a good time with the phonetics and other features of english (and telugu) for my project (that flopped badly), so I'd like you to marvel the way you can compress data with english. From ~50 to just 26 characters. <BR/><BR/>b) Although it would be great to have a language for expressing emotions, just regard that there is beauty in the fact that you can play with words and emotions in every language here. (Also, you can play with spellings and sounds in english in a way you can't with hindi). So I'd decline this aspect because most poems and most writings gain beauty from the inherent complexity.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I have been thinking for quite a while about converting text into images as a universal language, but I've met several hitches, and i'm presently not technically capable enough to pull it off.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to leave with the message that this has already been attempted. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban" REL="nofollow">Lojban</A>Arun Chagantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286361539754299282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-54719829050513490462007-07-04T22:44:00.000+05:302007-07-04T22:44:00.000+05:30lol rg, sori if u mind that. .. are u satisfied wi...lol rg, sori if u mind that. .. are u satisfied wid my answer ?<BR/><BR/>@ navneet,<BR/>surely the prospect of a universal language is political, etc, bt what i mean here is to find a better language. or rather a better mode of communication.<BR/><BR/>using charades and pictures is great, bt still very trivial. it's no where near enough to be called a language.<BR/><BR/>a better idea is communication by delta waves. directly from brain to brain. and i am not dreaming, it's an active research area ...Saurya Mishrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17299390609022113214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-14980492395588803372007-07-04T20:24:00.000+05:302007-07-04T20:24:00.000+05:30hmm...the points with coming up with a universal l...hmm...the points with coming up with a universal language would be more of political, economy driven and ease.<BR/><BR/>however if we were to come up with one...why not use charades? common and easy to be trained in...however regional differences will always remain.<BR/><BR/>how about charades and pictures? good combo.<BR/><BR/>SUL: special universal language by any chance?Navneethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279562996961199133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-4403501854465952372007-07-04T18:15:00.000+05:302007-07-04T18:15:00.000+05:30eh I'm not rasagy loleh I'm not rasagy lolRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11177269454641034500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-16379873121024275622007-07-03T13:08:00.000+05:302007-07-03T13:08:00.000+05:30ok rash ...here let me explain.i dont exactly mean...ok rash ...here let me explain.<BR/>i dont exactly mean communication by images, the way the hieroglyphics were, nor do in mean that we sud throw away the net etc. what i mean is to form a language which has emotions, feelings integrated into it, thus making phones and internet even more effective !<BR/><BR/>we can of course see each others face and hear the voice to kno expressions, bt can u do the same for an autobiography? use of phrases like 'feeling angry', 'feeling lonely', and things as such r used in books. bt the fact is that, when a certain number of people read a paragraph, EACH of them interprets it differently. NONE get the author's real meaning.<BR/><BR/>Say u go to Zaire, and wanna talk to a Pigmy, hw can u? here we do need a universal language. Mere translation will not do. try reading 'geetanjali' in english, it becomes all rubbish.<BR/><BR/>and lastly about the picorial book thing u said. A book is not just pieces of paper, text, or pictures. It is RECORD - of events, facts, feelings, etc. It can be in any form. NOW Just imagine, stepping into mahatma Gandhi's THOUGHTS and experiencing the Dandi march, from his eyes !<BR/><BR/>congrats rash ! u hav successfully provoked me to write the second part ! lol.Saurya Mishrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17299390609022113214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28368291.post-48035981355706337802007-07-03T12:34:00.000+05:302007-07-03T12:34:00.000+05:30You have confused me.You say we need a language th...You have confused me.<BR/><BR/>You say we need a language that expresses emotions. Why? Do we always communicate over the net, and never face to face?<BR/><BR/>You say that we do not know what the other's mood is. Why? Over the phone, do we not recognize the tone of voice?<BR/><BR/>You say the use of imagery will be an effective way to express oneself. Does this mean we use video phones? Or is this telepathic? In which case we throw our phones and the internet away? Who needs a voice then? And what about books? Purely pictorial? Who can read that??<BR/><BR/>Please elaborate.RGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11177269454641034500noreply@blogger.com